Facing Failing Health As A Vegan

January 20th, 2013 - filed under: The Food » Food and Health



I have been trying to write this post for ages, and I do mean ages. I’ve spent enough hours staring at this blank page, blinking cursor, to have written it many times over and still been able to bake a gluten-free vegan cake. Okay maybe that’s not true, but you get my point.

You’d think it would be a relatively easy story to transcribe. It’s a linear progression of factual events, right? Well, sort of. There are actually a number of ways I can tell this story, is the thing. For example I could very simply lay out the series of events, the way I got sick and why, and how I got better (I did). But that would sort of miss the point.

Or, I could write a scathing assault on our modern medical system which refuses to look at holistic health or even to pause at the quiet insistence of a new mother saying “No really, something is wrong.” Yeah, I could definitely write that story.

Or I could muse about the fascinating interplay of mental and physical health, wax New Age-y about the mind-body connection; wonder which causes which and ponder where it all begins (though I don’t think I’m the girl to write that article, ‘cause I’m not all that New Age-y and it’s all just Ouroboros anyway.)

Obviously, this is going to be a long post, can you tell?

The truth is that there’s only one way it feels right tell this story, and that is to contextualize it in the exact way that the entire thing was contextualized in my own life. It’s a story you don’t hear much in public, but I sure have heard it over and over in confidence. And I feel like it’s a story that needs to be told.

So this is my story: the story of how my veganism, held in deepest conviction, hit the wall of health crisis, and cracked with doubt.

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Before I begin I want to acknowledge that I leave some things vague, mostly when it comes to my blood tests/numbers and what led to my diagnosis. This is because, well, it’s in the past now and I’m just not up for debating the specifics of how or what I could have done differently. I know everyone on the Internet is an expert (hey, me too!) but please respect that I don’t wish to argue about what I did or didn’t do.

I can imagine about a million and one ways in which people might be offended by what I’m about to say. I can also imagine another million and one ways in which people might want to invalidate my experience (Psychosomatic! Placebo! Armchair RD!). And you know? That’s fine. I’m not here to defend myself. I can’t please everyone, eh? I’m just trying to speak my truth and tell my story, exactly as I experienced it. Here goes.

Breastfeeding in a farm field. You now, like you do.


So, everything started a few months after Waits was born. But it was hard to get a handle on at first, because I was a) dealing with postpartum anxiety [certainly intertwined with my health issues], and b) a first-time mother who was attachment parenting a colicky baby, and c) still trying to “do it all” [ie maintain my blog and speed-write a book while keeping on top of all of the mom/wife/house stuff]. Which is why it took me so long to figure out that something was really wrong.

It began with the fatigue, and I don’t just mean that new mom exhaustion that’s born of too many sleepless nights. This was different, so that on my “bad” mornings my limbs were like lead, and moving into my day felt like so much work, it almost seemed unbearable. Like I said, the physical and the mental stuff was all tied up together.

The fatigue was often accompanied by a splitting headache, and after that came the rashes. My skin was suddenly hyper-sensitive. I had to stop using all lotion and even coconut oil – everything caused me to break out in itchy little red bumps. But even without any stimulus, the rash would come. Often it would be a fatigue day followed by a fatigue + headache day, with the rash setting in a few days after that. Or sometimes the rash would just show up, unannounced.

All of this compelled me to talk to my doctors; first to a midwife and then to an MD.

The midwife said that it sounded like typical new mom stuff. That I should come back if it hadn’t cleared up in a few months. It felt like the brush off.

The MD suggested that I had picked up a virus, any one of the many (like fifths and that cohort) that are common among small children. I asked about the strange recurrence, almost like a cycle, and he said that it could happen with these viruses. Even when I spoke to him again, six months later and it was still happening at regular intervals, he said it was just a virus. I felt like he wasn’t hearing me.

There were other symptoms as well, things that at the time seemed like maybe they were “normal” (in that new-mom sort of way), but as the year wore on and they all got worse, a bigger-picture of the problem began to emerge. My skin was often itchy and dry. I had these extreme mood swings. EXTREME. Often they seemed related to food, which was part of what prompted The Great Grand Diet Trial of 2011. I would get hot flashes, too. Clammy skin. Intense sugar cravings. And of course, anxiety and depression. Lots of anxiety, lots of depression. And eventually by the end of it, complete self-loathing.

This continued through the second half of 2010, and on into 2011. It only got worse. But my symptoms would ebb and flow, enough so that over and over, I would think it maybe had passed. I would feel better for a spell, and I would begin to believe that it had ended. Then, one evening my skin would feel a bit dry, and my heart would sink. And sure enough, the next morning, I would wake up with that same extreme fatigue, feeling like I literally couldn’t get out of bed.

That was the worst part of it all – the over and over up and then down, hope and then despair. That roller coaster, it wears you away. Does damage to the psyche.

I would have done almost anything to feel better. Anything. And when you’re vegan, eventually you start to wonder if your diet is part of the problem. Or maybe, everyone else wonders for you. But I couldn’t help it – I wondered too. I talked to my father, who is a well-respected doctor of Chinese Medicine. He advised eating meat. My Qi was weak, he said. “Just a little bone broth?” or, “Maybe some fish?

No” I repeated over and over. “Dad, I can’t do that. I’m vegan.” It became a point of contention in our relationship. He saw his daughter suffering and he wouldn’t accept my refusal of his solution. I felt like I was suffering and he couldn’t step outside his narrow paradigm to try to help me. But I’ll admit, his words and the words of everyone else wiggled in, and I worried that they were right. Was I making myself sicker because I was stuck in this ideology?

In March of 2012, over a year and a half into this, I spoke again with the MD. He still maintained it was a virus. Or, “Sounds like typical new mom stuff to me.

I felt completely alone. I felt like I was screaming for help and nobody was listening. And I felt like I was living a lie, blogging about the good stuff in my life (trying to practice gratitude, trying to be positive), while omitting this enormous struggle. It felt disingenuous and contributed to my shriveling self esteem.

In February of 2011, I quit blogging. I needed to figure out how to get myself better. Because I was truly, completely, hopelessly miserable. And I’m having trouble walking the line as I write this now, not wanting to sound melodramatic, but needing to express just how horrible it was, and how much it affected me. Quality of life? I had none.



Finally, in April 2012, I made an appointment with a Naturopathic Doctor.

I’d held off for a lot of reasons, mainly because of money (insurance doesn’t cover most naturopaths) and also I don’t know, maybe a sort of prejudice? I mean, I’m a hippie girl at heart, raised that way and totally accepting of alternative modalities. But homeopathy is something I could never really get behind (it just DOESN’T make sense to my scientist’s brain) and since I have both an MD and a Chinese Medicine doctor in the family, I just never really looked into Naturopathy.

But this was different, because I wasn’t getting the help I needed and very simply put, I was desperate.

I found a list of naturopaths that were covered by my insurance, and cold-emailed the ones that sounded like a good fit. This is what my email said:

“Hello, I’m wondering if you are currently accepting new patients. I am
dealing with lots of weird health/mental health issues which have come
up following the birth of my son. He is 25 months and the problems
started around 5 months postpartum.

I am “medium crunchy”, which means I’m actually very crunchy and
prefer alternative medicine techniques, but I’m also very grounded by
traditional science. You sound like you have a similarly balanced
approach and I’m wondering if we could have a consult and see if we
“click”.

Thanks so much! Cheers,
~Sayward”



Dr. Lasse called me back within a few hours. She left me a message, laughing at my “medium crunchy” remark, and sounding so kind. I felt right away that she could help me.

My first appointment was at the end of April, and I wept as she did my intake. I cried A LOT in that first session. I just felt such relief at finally speaking to somebody who looked me in the eye, who said “Yes, you’re obviously sick, let’s figure out why.” I had hope, real hope, for the first time in ages.

I told her my story and she agreed with my suspicion that my hormones were the underlying issue. The cyclical nature of the symptoms – and the symptoms themselves – seemed to indicate a hormonal imbalance. She was alarmed to hear that I wasn’t menstruating, something I hadn’t paid much attention to. I assumed that since I was still nursing I was just experiencing lactation-induced amenorrhea. Also, I hadn’t had regular periods in years, since way before getting pregnant (and since before going vegan, in case you wondered). I wasn’t actually menstruating when I got pregnant with Waits.

But she felt strongly that I should be, and so this became a starting point in our initial treatment plan. I left her office that morning armed to the teeth with a battery of the crunchiest crunchiness you ever did see. Herbal tinctures. Bitters for digestion. 3 different homeopathic remedies. Castor oil. A “prescription” to eat certain seeds on a lunar cycle in order to induce menstruation. I know! And of course, orders for a whole battalion of blood tests.



Two weeks later my blood work was back. Let’s pause and take a moment now. Try to imagine the absolute worst, the most ridiculous, the most comically ironic diagnosis that a vegan could receive.


No, it wasn’t B12. My B12 and D were great.


However, my cholesterol was abysmally low. And on top of that, I had blood markers for protein depletion. Seriously.

Cholesterol
Cholesterol is a type of fat found only in animal foods. Vegans do not intake ANY dietary cholesterol. Human bodies do produce cholesterol, however, that’s only if the body is healthy. Cholesterol is produced in the liver. My liver had been abused by many years of drinking, smoking, caffeine, and then eventually, pregnancy.

Cholesterol is the precursor to all sex hormones (like estrogen, progesterone, etc). Without adequate cholesterol, the body cannot make hormones.

Protein Depletion
You’ve probably heard vegans (and pretty much every vegan “leader”) scoffing at the protein question. “The protein myth!” and “How many cases of Kwashiorkor have you seen this year?” they’ll quip sarcastically. Basically, “neener neener, duh” is the attitude towards people who question protein.

But you don’t have to develop complete protein deficiency to be protein-depleted. And I, living an active lifestyle, nursing, and eating a sometimes-high-raw, always-vegan diet, was protein depleted.


I was devastated. Devastated. I felt like someone had punched me in the stomach. To hear “cholesterol” and “protein” as a vegan, well it just shook me to my very core. I was reeling.

My naturopath knew that I had some rescued hens, and she suggested that I start eating their eggs.

And maybe you’re thinking the same thing? It sure would solve all my problems, right? That’s a perfect little packet of pure protein and cholesterol, right there. In my very own backyard. Guaranteed cruelty-free.

The thing is though, it wasn’t about me. Because, sure, I could eat those very specific eggs that I don’t necessarily have an ethical objection to, and it would probably help me. Maybe even heal me. But then . . . what would that mean?

If I had to eat animal foods in order to get better, then that would mean I was not capable of being vegan. And if I was incapable of being vegan, then that would mean that the vegan ideology was fundamentally flawed. Because if I HAD to eat animals to be healthy, then eating animals could NOT be morally wrong.

So do you see? That this wasn’t just about me? Wasn’t just about my own health?

Veganism is the cornerstone of my life. It is my framework, it contextualizes my actions and informs my every decision. I believe in kindness and non-violence with the wholeness of my being. This is everything to me.


Those next few days, I was in a stupor. I cancelled a speaking engagement at the Mad City Vegan Fest, an event I’d been so looking forward to. How could I stand in front of a room and talk about veganism, when my own health was failing and my own faith was in crisis?

And then one night, just a few days after I received my diagnosis, I was making dinner and listening to a very popular vegan podcast. The host is one of my greatest mentors, and her discussions always calm and inspire me. This newest episode was all about talking to people who might misuse our words: people who call themselves vegetarian but eat fish, or people who call themselves vegan but eat occasional “humane” animal products, etc. And, there was a section on people who stop being vegan “for health reasons”. What a coinkidink.

One thing I’ve always loved about this speaker is the compassion that she seems to radiate in everything she does – it’s something I’ve worked hard to emulate. She’s just got a way with non-judgment, which was why it came as such a shock to hear the callous, almost mocking tone she took when speaking on this particular topic. She seemed to imply – no, she definitely said – that if someone gives up veganism for health reasons, it’s because “. . . they felt inconvenienced . . . ” and “. . . [they] didn’t really embrace it enough . . .”, ending with, “. . . and so the easy way out is an excuse that appears legitimate.”

This is, essentially, victim-blaming people during their most vulnerable time. And hearing this from someone that I so admire? Well that was just sort of my breaking point.

You don’t know!” I wanted to scream. “If you’ve never been sick you don’t understand! I would do practically ANYTHING to stop feeling like this!

So that’s the night I found my anger. And oh boy, was I angry. I resented everyone, everyone I’d trusted. All the vegan leaders and vegan doctors and vegan gurus who’d insisted over and over that I was eating the healthiest diet on the planet. They lied to me! FUCK THEM!

Well, that lasted about 12 hours. I’m not really one for anger and thus my self-righteous indignation didn’t make it past morning. The second I let myself remember why I was vegan in the first place, was the second my anger melted away (literally). Because, remember, it’s not about me.

I am vegan for the animals.

Period. I’m not vegan for the leaders and doctors and gurus, for the approval of my mentors or even for my own health. I’m vegan because I believe with all my heart and soul that it is wrong to inflict violence and suffering on innocent beings. Period.

So that was that. I’d uncovered my reserve strength. And now I had to find a way to get better while staying vegan. I mean, if anyone could possibly re-imagine, get creative, and think outside the box for a nontraditional solution, well I think that I’m just the girl for that job. I’m pretty freakin’ persistent.



I came to my next appointment with a renewed sense of purpose. “We have to make this work within the framework of veganism” I told my naturopath. She was supportive. We devised a plan.

I’m not going to go over every detail of my particular treatment, but in general it went something like this:

• Seeds. Within 3 weeks (seriously!) of starting the cycling seeds program for hormonal balance, I got my first period in over 3 years. I don’t even know what to say about this because it makes the scientist in me raise such a skeptic’s eyebrow, but listen. Dudes. It worked.

• Liver support. We wanted to help my liver efficiently make its own cholesterol. The regimen included castor oil packs, omitting alcohol, coffee, and black tea, and omitting refined sugar. I also cut out gluten because it very much exacerbated my most troublesome symptoms (fatigue and moodiness).

• Fat. Eating as much saturated fat (coconut products, cacao butter) as possible (SORRY NOT SORRY, DR. CAMPBELL) because saturated fat stimulates cholesterol production. Also, eating plenty of other healthy fats, like olive oil, nuts, and avocados (SORRY NOT SORRY, DR. ESSELSTYN). [Of course, I’m just being playful “apologizing” to these amazing doctors. I mean no disrespect – these are great men. But, I would be remiss if I didn’t mention that although I believe a low-fat vegan diet is excellent for reversing and curing many chronic diseases, that does NOT mean that it’s the right diet for everyone. A diet for healing is different than a diet for maintenance, is different than a diet for building (pregnancy) and is certainly different than a diet for growth (children). I feel like a lot of vegans, and vegan leaders, overlook this important point. And in my own anecdotal experience, the vegans who most often get sick are of the low-fat and/or all-raw variety. Maybe this warrants it’s own post in the future, eh?]

• Protein. I made a conscious effort to include plenty of protein in my daily menus, with the aim of eating something protein-rich with every meal. During my intensive healing period, I was eating high-protein foods all day (beans, tofu, tempeh, quinoa, lentils, and more beans beans beans) and fixing myself a “protein & saturated fat” shake every morning and every night before bed.

• Additional emotional/physiological support, via herbal tinctures and homeopathic remedies. Because well why not?


And the results? Following this protocol, my progress was so immediate and so monumental, it felt like nothing short of a miracle. Within just a few weeks I felt like a different woman. I could hardly believe it.

And as the months passed, I only continued to improve. I was able to lay off some of the stricter guidelines (reintroduce black tea, drop the late night shake, etc). There was a lot of other very difficult stuff going on in my life back then, but my health remained strong and continued to gain strength, and that made all the difference in the world. Much of my anxiety and depression was relieved just by physically feeling better. So much.

When my blood was retested in September 2012, my cholesterol had moved up into the healthy range, and the markers for my protein depletion had mostly normalized (still room to improve, but much better). By the end of October I felt like both my physical and emotional health had made a complete recovery, and I scheduled my last session with my naturopath.

In some ways, I really feel like she saved my life. For those of you in the Portland area: Dr Raina Lasse, ND. I simply cannot recommend her highly enough.

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These days I feel strong. I am healthy and I am happy. It’s actually not something I think about much anymore, which is more of a relief than you can probably understand. When you have your health, you just don’t realize how much you have to lose.

As for my current diet, I still eat coconut products (saturated fat) more often than most folks, but not every day. I’ve also retrained myself in the way I approach my meals, so that I always include some protein (it’s become second nature now). I do believe that every person requires a slightly different diet/macronutrient ratio, and that there’s no one set way that is a guarantee for good health. Some people only need very little fat, others don’t do well with carbs, and still others require lots and lots of protein. VIVE LE BEANS!

But all of these individual needs, I think, can be accomplished within the framework of a vegan diet. I do believe that now. Because I’m proof.

“I adore myself and everyone else.” Affirmation on the mirror at Cafe Gratitude, Hollywood.


If you are vegan and sick, please know that you are not alone. This is happening to others. This is even happening to leaders in our community. I know, because I’ve talked to them.

And you know what? It’s is a damn shame that there is such a stigma attached to this, that people feel the need to suffer in silence. I mean I get it, I do. As vegans we deal with enough skepticism from the “outside” world, and it can start to feel like you need to be a shining example of vegan health and perfection at every moment, or else you’re damaging the cause. But it’s a mistake, I think, that the leaders and bloggers and writers and others, are not sharing more of these sorts of struggles. Because we cannot fault people for giving in and going back, if they have no examples of how to persevere.

If nobody shares their stories, then everyone feels alone.

And if I, a deeply committed ethical vegan with a reputation and career on the line, living in freakin’ Portland Oregon, can actually consider going back . . . well, then I can’t blame isolated vegans in small towns who have no support system at all, for doing the same.

Losing your health is the scariest thing. When you’re sick, it consumes everything. But you don’t have to feel like hell just to stand by your beliefs, and you don’t have to stop being vegan in order to feel better. Find a medical practitioner – whichever type you prefer (I’m naturopath-for-life now!) – one that will actually listen and really wants to help. Get your blood tested! Don’t play guessing games, just pony up and pay to know what’s really going on. Then educate yourself, reach out to experts, reach out to the online community, find support, and work with your doctor to figure out a treatment plan that will fit your needs.

Once you’re better (and you will be), share. Leaders and bloggers and writers and everyone else, please share! We will never be able to figure out the whole puzzle, until we are looking at all the pieces. This is not a matter of veganism failing; this is simply a failure of information.

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So that’s it. That’s the story of how I got sick, had a crisis of faith, found my strength, and fought my way back to health and happiness. My hope in telling this story is that it may inspire you to stand firm in your own convictions, whenever those convictions are rooted in love.

So with all my love,

*cheers*

To your health.



Edited to add: I am completely overwhelmed by the outpouring of support I have received today. Thank you all so much! It is downright scary to put yourself out there, but you have all reaffirmed my intuition that this was a story that needed to be told. And I am honored to have been able to share it.

As of now, tonight, this post has garnered almost 10,000 hits. Amazing! Please, keep sharing, because it’s obviously resonating with people out there. Again, I’m just so honored.

Unfortunately, I won’t be able to respond to each comment individually, but please know I have read and appreciate every single one. Thank you so much again – it feels great to be back! ♥

  • http://bonzaiaphrodite.com/ Sayward Rebhal

    I do, I take B12 and DHA and occasionally vitamin D (now that I live in SoCal I get a lot more sun). I think B12 is necessary for all vegans. The rest depends on diet, age, geography, etc. =)

  • troy

    wow… Just wow. Thx for sharing.

  • naturallycurlyvegan

    Hi! I was reading your story and it was very touching. I am glad that you have regained your health. So many times we as vegans forget that we have to include certain things in our diets because we have been trained to eat the sad diet. We also need to be very careful about the harmful stuff that we put into our bodies because we aren’t used to it. I feel more quickly the abuse I am doing to my body with sugar than I did when I ate it all of the time. I get sick sometimes too. We have to remember that many meat eaters get sick much more frequently than vegans, and never do they look at their diet. We have to look at 1) are we continuing to get a variety of nuts, grains, seeds, fruits, and vegetables. If we aren’t we will see a difference. We also need lots!!! of water, air, sunlight, exercise, rest, self-control and trust in God. God will help us with what we don’t know. My husband and I are currently working on teaching people how to eat using the 8 laws of health in the Bible, because eating healthy is new to people. The symptoms are the clue to what is needed in the diet. My prayers are with you. God bless!

  • Carrie

    What a beautiful post! Thank you for sharing your story. Thank you for being committed to veganism so we have the opportunity to see you come through health challenges without giving up your values. I also appreciate the comment about different types of vegan diets working for different people — this is such an important point, as there are constant (ridiculous, in my opinion) arguments in the vegan community about which expert is more right than the others. Let us all support each other and remember that we have more in common than we have differences!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/erin.branscome Erin Branscome

    Thank you so much for this. I really needed to read it.
    I became very, very sick two years ago. I had been a vegetarian for ten years, a vegan for more than six. It had nothing to do with being a vegan (my small intestine ruptured) but the result was several months in the hospital, six months of not eating anything (fed via TPN, through a vein) and 15 surgeries. After my last surgery, in Oct., I was anxious to go back to eating regularly. While on TPN, I had zero control over what I was fed, many of the nutrients and even medications contained animal products. When I was off, I could only be on a liquid diet, and again, the only medically sanctioned liquid meal replacements contained animal products.
    So I wanted to go back to my vegan diet. I was able to eat solid foods. But because of what happened, I have short-gut syndrome (I only have 3ish feet of small intestine left) and the surgeon said I couldn’t. He wanted me to start eating meat, actually, but that’s where I drew the line (at the time). My family has never supported my being a vegan, so they backed him, and I caved.
    I became a vegan for ethical reasons, not health or environmental, and it was hard at first. I was especially upset, like you, by people in the community who were dismissive of health concerns. But, unlike you, I let my anger justify doing what I knew was wrong, and left the vegan/animal rights community entirely. I’m not a public figure so there was no “ex-vegan” blog post, it was a private “fuck you”, but I’m still ashamed about it. And, honestly, it became so EASY.
    I didn’t have to read labels anymore. I didn’t have to make seperate meals from the family. I could eat at every single restraunt we went to. I re-discovered how much I love eggs. And here’s the weird thing: because I had been such a committed vegan, because I knew that eggs and milk were NOT cruelty free and that one does contribute to killing animals by eating dairy and eggs–hell, you’re supporting the veal industry–it was easier to justify adding fish to my diet. Because I was already killing, right? I was already betraying my deep principals. So I justified it mentally, and got major kudos from my family, friends, and doctors. Their happiness and excitement reinforced my decision.
    But I knew it was wrong, and it continued to bother me. When I went on vacation and found myself eating a little of the buiscits and sausage gravy offered (because, hey, I was eating fish anyway. Just like I was eating milk and eggs…) it was a wake-up call, and I realized what I was doing. I had a decision. I could continue on the path and eventually go back to eating meat all the time; that’s where I was headed. But I couldn’t fool myself that it was okay, justified. That I still believed in animal rights. I’ve always believed that it doesn’t matter what a person says they value, it matters what they *do*. I could “believe” in animal rights, but if I was still eating them, it meant nothing.
    So I talked with my primary doctor. She supported my commitment to go back to veganism, albeit with the warning that I would have to be very careful. I have to plan my meals very very carefully. I record everything that goes into my mouth and make sure I’m getting the right balance. I have a giant pill box. I have to get regular blood tests.
    But I feel so much better. I’m not going to say my health has improved because of my vegan diet–I don’t know if that’s true, it could just be that I feel better because I’m now living my values.
    The vegan community needs to be more understanding and supportive of people with health problems. We need to stop saying that a vegan diet universally makes people healthier, or that it will cure all your physical woes. But I do believe–because it’s what I did!–that people can use health problems to justify eating meat. It IS a heck of a lot easier to stop caring what’s in your food, to have less limitations, to stop having the same tired arguments with friends and family, to be “normal”, ESPECIALLY because being sick a) is very time consuming, so it’s nice to have one less thing to worry about, and b) it’s depressing and isolating, so having support from people close to you is important.
    Anyway, I’m talking too much, I’ll stop. I just wanted to say thank you for writing this, and that I really admire that you stuck to your values and made it work. I wish I had done the same.

  • val

    1023 calories a day??? What the fuck, why you think you get sick? Go read some books and do it their way, not yours, you don’t know anything about it! You eat like an anorexic! Kids need around 1000-1400 calories to survive, are you one? I don’t think so, and girl, you eat way too much fat! 45% a day??? we need like 11% from fat a day..that’s why you were sick and the only reason why you feel better now it’s because you eat more calories because animal products are full of fat and protein so it’s dense in calories. Oh and cleansing what a big shit don’t do it, it kills you, half a day ok, 9 days just be anorexic it’s the same thing and they are not in good shape lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/marty.heazlewood Marty Heazlewood

    What a fantastic story, the stick to your guns attitude that got you through this is so inspiring, and no animals had to suffer either. I commend you for your diligence that seems to be lacking so much in people today :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/peter.rowe.104 Peter Rowe

    You hit so many good points. Thank you. Having just turned 61, I’ve spent most of my life dealing with health, since I was diagnosed a type 1 diabetic at age 16. Years of following one doc or the next, who’s advice over the years made the proverbial herd of cats seem organized. I held my own, even so, but gained a bunch of weight, had six bypass grafts put into my chest, and frankly cannot remember how many decades I have to go back before I can remember being capable of any semblance of a normal sex life (before I turned 30, at any rate, it was in trouble. Maybe part of why I’ve been single all my life). Then, 2 years ago, thanks to Sanjay Gupta putting “Forks over Knives” into an hour long special called “The last Heart Attack”, I found a whole new body of information. It’s been a revelation. I’ve met both Dr. Campbell and Dr. Esselstyn, and try to follow that very low fat diet. It must be doing something good for circulation, as I seem to find some faint remnant of sexual response trying to get noticed. A long way from anything normal or useful, but a good sign for circulation, at any rate. Cholesterol is now just above 100, on half my prior statin dose, my insulin requirements have dropped 40 percent, and my weight is down 50 lbs, to where I was in college. And yet, despite all this, I still find it hard, essentially doing it alone as best I can. Hearing stories like yours, helps reaffirm that this is the right direction to take, even if I’m sure I need to iron out details. Your post strongly encourages me to find a decent naturopathic doctor to add to the crew of conventional doctors who also take care of my needs, and draining my wallet. Portland is a little far, though. Need to find someone here in Seattle. If you happen to know anyone you could recommend, I’d be grateful. There are so few people here in Seattle that I know personally, who are also doing this, so it’s nice to hear I’m not alone.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Benlovesyouallx Benjamin McEwan

    Protein NEVER an issue when eatin enough maybe 3000 calories
    I suspected gluten from the outset and it was clear she was abusing her body
    With the alcohol and caffeine, never good
    She doesn’t say what the seeds were- if she really thought like a scientist
    She would mention them and realised she needed to ditch the junk if she expected to get better.

    And extremely low fat vegan suits men better than women
    And obviously you need to eat so much more food as carbs have about
    Half the caloric density of fats.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Benlovesyouallx Benjamin McEwan

    Excellent post below josh, this is seriously retarded someone blaming vegan diet for liver damage due to poor lifestyle choices eg drinking alcohol tea and smoking. Most vegans don’t smoke, only the ones I know that aren’t fully committed do

    Maybe a vegan will stop their vegan diet because of what you say here and more animals will die because of your stupid blog post.

  • Gabby

    Thank you so much for sharing your painful but lovely and inspiring story.
    I am a “healthy” vegan. Full of life and energy;but;I am very consiencious on what PROTEIN intake implies being a vegan. My diet is very abundant in nuts and beans. The kitchen is your friend…get busy vegans out there! Read and instruct yourselves for “Knowledge is Power”!

  • Meg York

    Brave blogger – addressing an unfortunately taboo subject with grace, dignity, honesty, and conviction. Thank you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/earthsaverdon Don Robertson

    Important story! Thanks for sharing.

  • Christina

    Thank you. Thank you so much. As a “sick” vegan myself, so much of what you’ve written here resonated deeply. I literally cried throughout your description of all the internal arguments you had when considering abandoning a lifestyle that we all believe in so deeply. As my symptoms have worsened recently, I feel like I’m right where you were, and it’s so unbelievably comforting to know there’s a possible exit strategy for this vicious cycle. Thank you again and so glad to hear you’re healthy again.

  • Leela

    What was her liver disease? Why do you think it wasn’t evident from her blood work?

  • Leela

    Nope, our ancestors probably ate insects as well as plants.

  • Leela

    I would agree. And many, many people have healed themselves including some animal foods back into their diet. Often it is temporary, and then they must reconsider what they were doing that was not meeting their nutritional needs, and readjust. it is not always easy to find honest and knowledgable people regarding diet, especially within certain vegan circles. I do believe that with the right information people can be healthy and vegan, but we are not educated about diet and nutrition generally….most of us got the standard diet taught in schools, which was based on the food pyramid, designed as we all know, by the meat and dairy industries.

    And not everyone is going to be able to afford a battery of tests if they don’t have health insurance for instance. There are loads of people struggling to make ends meet in this economy, and they don’t all have supportive families.

    That said, it is WONDERFUL that Sayward found good help, AND got better. Because that doesn’t always happen either.

    I think that vegans need to have compassion for those who are not able to heal with a vegan diet, or are too compromised healthwise to resist pressure and criticism from family and friends. It happens.

  • Leela

    And science is always changing its tune, has anyone noticed? One day coffee is good for you, the next it isn’t, one day this drug is a miracle drug, a few years later it is shown to cause serious health issues. Why should we trust science?

    I find this mindset part of the problem with regards to our health. We have been educated to disregard the signs of ill health, in order to make us depend on the mainstream medical establsihment. We have been similarly miseducated about food. Many of were not taught how to cook, or plan balanced meals, using a variety of preparation methods, for instance, which nourish us differently. Many of us do not know how to assess the effect of the environment on how we are feeling and to make daily adjustments to our diet and activity.

    Why don’t we trust ourselves? We evolved this way… Eating what was available in the immediate environment, eating when we were hungry no doubt. Not overheating. We were active. We lived in community.

    Food is overemphasized, when we need to also look at other factors implicated in health. Someone who is depressed by their circumstances isn’t going to want to eat the same way that someone who is inspired and happy will eat. They might eat too much, and the wrong foods, or not want to eat at all!

    Science is overrated as a way to measure health.

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  • http://bonzaiaphrodite.com/ Sayward Rebhal

    Christina, I’m so sorry to hear that you’re going through this. Truly, my heart goes out to you. Good luck on your health journey, I’ll be thinking of )and pulling for) you! ♥

  • Katie Pace

    I just ran across this blog and post and am breathing a sigh of relief bc all of your feelings are the same as mine. And as a mother of an 11 month old going through similar issues, I feel like this find today was the universe answering my call. Amd the fact that i have a picure of myself in the same bathroom is no coincidence. :) Thank you!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jane.easton.397 Jane Easton

    This is amazing. First of all, for sceptics out there, it is clear from what you say that it’s not the ‘limitations’ of a vegan diet that made you ill – it is, as you so rightly prove, far more complicated than that. I know gazillions of vegans – I am the food person for an influential UK group and work with two nutritionists, an ex nutritional campaigner and another dozen or so long-term vegans. I also meet hundreds of them in my work, at events etc … so I have access to a lot of cutting edge nutrition. And like you, I have heard all the ‘got to eat a body part to get well’ stuff, including the Chinese medicine that you mentioned. There is a lot of voodoo around meat, as if eating flesh somehow will do it when other foods ‘can’t’. In fact, I was vegetarian for 15 years, got stressed/ill and was told to eat meat by an acupuncturist who told me ‘tofu won’t cut it’. Sadly, I took her advice. It took me a few years to get through that particular delusion but I’ve been a happy healthy vegan for nearly 12 years now. I just wish I’d known a decent veg*n nutritionist at that time! It’s ironic – meat and dairy make so many of us sick but as soon as a vegan starts to feel il…. Anyway, I started off thinking you were going to ‘give in’ and eat animal products and it felt so sad; it would have been so easy to take that route. Yet I could feel your compassion for animals but also the compassion AND desperation – for yourself; the fear of illness; and of being a mum and feeling so ill while bringing up your child. Huge, huge stuff, very raw, very honest – but hats off to you for your persistence and doing your darnedest to hold in there. Your story is pretty rare but that doesn’t make it any less important. I’m just glad you are much better. Hats off to you for your courage and compassion – and to your naturopath, she really looked for alternatives and avoided glib answers or nutritional ‘prescriptions’.

  • http://www.facebook.com/corinne.blum.77 Corinne Blum

    Good for you! I think this topic, and many others, are boiling down to the same issue: we cannot, like dogma, tell people what they should do, what to believe in and punish them if they don’t. We have evolved beyond needing to judge each other for taking care of ourselves. What one person needs is different to another and this is true for diet, love, purpose, fun etc. So thank you for being a voice of your truth which many might share. We all need to learn to be more vulnerable, to understand and have compassion for the fact that we are not perfect, nor are we meant to be. The best we can do is listen to our body, our heart and our spirit and let them be our guide.

  • http://www.facebook.com/del.pickup Del Pickup

    Many thanks for this. I too know people who were formally
    committed Vegans who were advised by Doctors to ‘eat a little meat’.It is often
    forgotten that Doctors are not nutritionists or
    experts on diet, and are subject to the same conditioning by
    traditionally held views (as well as powerful advertising &
    marketing lobbies) as the rest of us. I have been lucky so far that my
    physical health has never been a concern for me, and I believe that is
    because I eat a varied Vegan diet, but I know that nothing would deter
    me from the path I chose over 20 years ago. As a committed Vegan myself, I
    wholeheartedly concur that it is “for the
    animals”, that I too refuse to be part of their suffering, and it is
    truly heartening to read of someone else so committed to a life of
    causing no harm. Thanks again

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=608590997 Lori Woods

    The two main points to take away from this story are 1) nutritional deficiencies can be fixed within a vegan framework, and 2) we may have very different needs within the framework of our vegan diet. For example, I’ve found that I am sensitive to soy. I was also low on B12 and D. I now cut out soy and supplement D and B12. Viola! Restored health. Thanks for sharing your story and for keeping to your principles.

  • Psyckoprincess

    Thank you! I have known people who also “couldn’t be vegan for health reasons”, and who added fish or eggs back in… or who simply gave it up. And I always wondered, my God, what if that happened to me? Could I really go BACK to eating that stuff? It’d be so awful and seems so gross to me. I am SO HAPPY for you that you were able to regain your health without compromising your ethics! Now I know that it CAN be done! I am also so SO happy that you decided to share this story. It is informative, and inspirational. :) I’m so blessed to have this info in my head now!

  • http://www.facebook.com/nathan.bael.1 Nathan Bael

    I wish I had found this earlier. I recently have in and stopped being vegan. I too was having health issues. Extreme fatigue was the most telling, along with memory loss. I would struggle through work only to come home, eat, and then go straight to bed. I have always been a person that had trouble getting more than six hours of sleep, so sleeping for 10+ hours was strange. Also, no matter how much I slept, I still woke up tired. I tried alternating and changing up my diet with no luck. My doctor couldn’t find out what was wrong. Eventually I gave in to the suggestions of my family and friends and started eating meat again. It has been a few months but I do feel better now (physically), the fatigue is gone, but I am dealing with the guilt.
    The thing is, I siill want to be vegan. Having read your story it makes me think that I just didn’t try hard enough to find a solution. However, it also gives me hope that I can find out what was causing the fatigue and correct it within a vegan diet. Maybe hormones are the answer for me as well. Maybe because I am male that didn’t cross anyone’s mind.

    Thank you for sharing your story. It has given me some avenues to check to see if I can fix what is wrong with me and be vegan.

  • SelkieSolo

    Thank you so much for posting your story, Erin — in response to Sayward’s obviously beautiful story. I can relate to the health issues, the advice, the internal conflicts. Despite being very athletic, I wasn’t a pristine example of health prior to becoming a vegetarian, then a vegan — but the problems grew in enormity as I went through my 20s and 30s. This was many years ago now. My mate and I spent our entire life savings and went broke trying to get me well – with doctors and with naturopaths and OMDs who weren’t covered by insurance. My treatments ran the gamut of healthcare options, from alternative to conventional, and yet I continued to fail, getting so ill I could barely work or function at times.

    Almost everyone said “eat animal products.” Vegan friends were sometimes intolerant of what I was saying, and I gradually dissociated myself from those individuals because the pain of being blamed for my illness, or told that I was imagining my symptoms, was too difficult to bear alongside the genuine physical suffering. In fairness, regular, omnivore doctors had told me the same thing. After a panel of gastro and blood tests came back all a-okay, one doctor sent me home with this encouraging advice: “have a beer, relax, it’s all in your head.” That’s no joke.

    When you have vague symptom patterns that aren’t easily diagnosed — especially over years and years — people don’t tend to show much understanding or compassion. A friend I met at a medical clinic, who was dealing with similar problems, told me it was easier when she broke her back in an accident because people came to the hospital with flowers. There we were, with IVs plugged into our arms, fighting like troopers every day, trying to get our lives back, and in many cases, we were ridiculed.

    I resisted animal products for a long time, but after years of getting worse, I tried– with immense conflict and anger. I felt so trapped and desperate. I knew that after looking away once from suffering, it’s not a great leap to close your eyes to other forms of atrocities. I had to stuff down the feelings of my authentic self in order to deal with the conflicts I was experiencing internally — which were enormous and stress-inducing.

    After 12 years of illness, I finally walked into the door of an incredible M.D. who worked together with an innovative naturopath. My condition was so poor — this was after including some animal products into my diet. For the first time in all of my treatments, I was tested for autoimmune conditions, with a full spectrum of parasite, bacterial, celiac and allergy tests — all of which came back positive — including verified celiac, and strong reactions to soy and eggs (which I’d begun eating again). A few of these tests weren’t available in the early years after I first got sick, unfortunately. It was only when these particular tests were done that the underlying problems were discovered and I could move toward recovery and a better, more attuned, plant-based diet.

    Like you, I admire Sayward for going through these travails and holding true to her principles. I live with regrets for the times I wasn’t as strong as I wish I’d been. Chronic illness is misunderstood and it’s a lonely and often desperate place, especially if you’re young and marginalized by that fact. Illness is also often maligned when it doesn’t fit into a familiar pattern that people can label and react to.

    The best thing we can do for other animal advocates who find themselves in this position is to show great compassion — to believe them when they say they are suffering — and not judge them as they struggle to find their personal compass through what can only be described as a life shattering experience. I wish that former vegetarians like Lierre Keith had half the integrity that Sayward does — to put personal animosity aside and remember the overarching reasons we made these changes in our lives to begin with: for our fellow nonhumans. Those who deeply care, even if they falter, will come back to compassion eventually. It’s easier for them to do so in an atmosphere of love and acceptance.

  • http://www.facebook.com/fairiesoftheworldunite Hannah Isthecoolest Goodbar

    I am newly vegan and I also have bipolar. I’m still trying to make the two meet because after about a week I could tell a difference mentally. But I have more energy than I have ever had and I am losing weight and in every other way I feel great :). I have been working harder on the fatty acids. Maybe it’s there. Any other suggestions?

  • Cb.beijing

    Thank you for sharing… I would like to start the cycling seeds program for hormonal balance, but do you have to have one spoon of each kind of seeds a day, or just a spoon of half pumpink seeds and half flxseeds as example? Then I’ll let you know the result… Cheers from Beijing, Cb

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  • Natalie

    How did you conceive if you weren’t menstruating? I’m dealing with amenorrhea due to PCOS and would love some insight. Of course, trying to sort out my cycles naturally.

  • Guest

    I am not a vegan because I believe that God put animals, certain animals, on the planet for eating. However, I know that not everyone believes in Him or believes that there is a humane way to consume our animal food that is within a standard that God set out. I am so incredibly touched by your story, and moved to conviction in my own life about what I believe. I think so many compromise themselves to please others rather than walk the walk. Thank you for being courageous! For speaking your truth, and for all the recommendations.

  • Katie

    Some how I stumbled upon your blog. Your story brough tears to my eyes. Your honesty was very inspiringQ Thank you for sharing…P.S. I love your name :)

  • http://bonzaiaphrodite.com/ Sayward Rebhal

    I must have been ovulating, not sure how regularly, but I wasn’t menstruating. I’m not very familiar with PCOS but I’d definitely look into a naturopath, someone who can help you balance your body/hormones more naturally. Seed cycling is worth a shot as well. Luck!

  • agacz

    Oh, thank you for writing this! I am so happy for Sayward, but I’m actually one of those people who had to go back to eating animal products. I tried very hard to be vegetarian for over a year (vegetarian! not even vegan!). But, you see, I suffer from Irritable Bowel Syndrome, which in my case means that I can eat legumes maybe once a week (and only in a very small portion), cannot eat any dairy, have to avoid nuts and have many, many more dietary restrictions. I was sick and miserable the whole year. I went to a vegetarian-friendly dietician for consulting but we really couldn’t figure out any way to give my body everything it needed. And since my main reason for trying vegetarian diet was to be healthier and I was nowhere near healthy, I had to give up. I’m okay with it, because I know it was the right decision for me, but reading that I’m a loser and I chose an easy way out because I chose my health is kind of harsh. Especially from Sayward, who always seemed like such an understanding person.

    But again, I am very happy for Sayward, that she figured it out. I know it must be much, much harder when the decision of being vegetarian/vegan is based on ethical reasons.

  • dingus

    Health problems aren’t social conflicts. This article isn’t about vegans who have problems making cultural adjustments. In fact, it’s for vegans who have a problem diverging from veganism because of their cultural, social, and personal attatchment to the ideal in the face of a severe health crisis. Veganism can be pulled off and be healthy. So can a diet that includes meat. Veganism is an ethical decision, not a health based one, and we should be held responsible to make that clear.

  • dingus

    Sciece is good, just the field of human nutrition is notoriously impossible to research. On top of that, it seems to be corrupt, ironicly just as much if not more so by sugar, corn, vegetable oil corporations and the soy industry as by meat and dairy companies. There is also a lot of misinformation that goes around.. a lot of which sadly we vegetarians and especially vegans, while meaning well, are responsible for.

    However, even though it isn’t officially documented, an understanding of human health has been looked into and is well understood, and I hate to say it but it is not a vegetarian diet, athough good health can still also be achieved as a vegan. In order to succeed as a vegan, it is helpful to disreguard vegetarian health information as it is often quite biased and read up on other perspectives to gain an understanding of what we are missing from our diets and what we can do to replace it within the boundaries of veganism, however inconvenient and painstakingly difficult that may be.

  • Rene Bataglia

    Thank you for sharing your story. I have never felt really good on a Vegan diet, but like you I think I need more protein instead of fruit and carbs. I’m going to go to a Naturpath as well. Thank you again for the animals and for speaking your truth.

    For anyone who can’t handle it as a Vegan after trying everything there a company that sells Wild Buffalo that is 100% grass fed, and free range. That do not artifically inseminate the animals, they reproduce naturally. They field kill the animals which means that they go out in a truck and shoot them with a silent gun that kills them instantly. They show how they do this on their web site. It is allot more humane than what they would go through if a moutain lion ate them alive.

    I don’t really agree that it is imoral to kill an animal for food. I think it is the better if you don’t have to but I don’t think it is a horrible sin if you do. Humans have been eating meat for for thousands of years and our genetics have changed over time. Some just can’t handle Veganism. Unfortunelty Veganism has become sort of a cult and that is doing more bad than good in the movement to encourage plant based diets. No one is going to listen to people ranting and raving extremes. That is just not going to work.

    Anyway the web site for the buffalo is: The link which shows how they kill them is below. I believe the people that own the company are Native Americans.

    http://wildideabuffalo.com/

    http://sustainableharvestalliance.org/

  • Cookie

    Thank you! I really needed this.. I’m new to the vegan world and since I haveno support when it comes to my lifestyle change, it’s good to know I have supportive Internet friends..

  • eve

    Thank you so much. The animals thank you. You are very brave.

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  • vegan newbie

    Thank you for being honest about the struggles that can come up in veganism! Suffering isn’t humane, period. And vegans who are sick are suffering and deserve just as much compassion as any other living creature. I’m personally going through a vegan diet crisis at the moment, but after reading your story I’m going to take a chance on your words and hope I can fight my way back to well-being on a vegan diet!

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  • Kat

    Thank you for sharing your story…I am going through something similar. I became a vegan about 7 months ago and I constantly get sick these days…and really sick – probably every other month. The only problem is that I have a severe intolerance to soy and to beans….oh and I have a gluten intolerance! This really inspired me to find a vegan way around this…

  • Laura

    I really enjoyed your post. I’m newish vegan and it’s hard because you always hear about veganism being a cure but I’ve never heard anyone’s struggles. Thanks for your openness and I am so glad you’re better!

  • rainbow

    I cannot thank you enough for this blog post. I cried as I read it. I felt sick on low fat/fat free/low protein vegan diets, and so much better on high fat, high protein vegan diets. But the experts told me I was wrong. God bless you for this post. Please put it in printable format so that we can print it out and show it to all the naysayers.

  • rainbow

    P.S. Please consider writing a book about your experience with this. The vegan community sorely needs a book of this nature. Perhaps you can partner with Jack Norris, RD? I found your blog through his blog! Again, thank you.