Pictures Of Things + Le Love List

May 1st, 2015 - filed under: Furthermore » Feedback

green juice for kids

The family that juices together . . . ♥

Hey there cats and kittens! HAPPY FRIDAY!

We’ve had a busy week around here, and seriously, can you even believe it’s the first day of May?? We are in the FIFTH MONTH of 2015 already – what??!

But May . . . May is exciting! On May 4th Jeremy and I will celebrate our 2-year anniversary, which is hard to believe, because it seems like we’ve shared so very much between us, that it couldn’t possibly have only been 2 years. But we’ve packed it in, I guess. And I’m so grateful to be living such a full, rich life with him. ♥

Then on May 16th, it’s LA Vegan Beer Fest, one of my very favorite days of the whole year, and the event where Jeremy and I met 2 years ago. So excited!

THEN, on May 25th, I pile into a car with Joni and Jackie and set out on a vegan ladies road trip adventure to the third (and final!) Vida Vegan Con in Austin, Texas. Sooooo excited!!!

Yup yup, May is gonna be good.

But first, here’s what life looked like, through tthe tail end of April:

learning to swim in nature

I feel so grateful that Waits is learning to swim here, amidst the fish and the frogs and the toe-biter bugs, instead of in some loud, crowded, indoor, chlorine-burning public pool like I had to.

backyard picnic platter
Easy dinners on a blanket in the back yard.

backyard picnic
♥ These two ♥

homegrown grapes
I’m growing grapes!

cauliflower tacos
This incredible meal, shared with incredible people.

healthy vegan kid
Earth Day. Also, excuse me, but WHEN did he get so grown up??!

picnic dinner
More backyard picnicking.

dog kisses
So much love for this old man.

vegan cuts snack box
Waits is always so excited to tear into our Vegan Cuts snack box. (Harley is unfazed)

kafir lime caramel chocolate bar
Jeremy and I picked this chocolate bar up when we were on our little Ojai stay-cation, but it somehow got lost in the shuffle of life. A delightful rediscovery, indeed …


And now, it’s time to take a moment to pause, look around, and take stock of all the little things that weave together to make our lives so special. Because there are so many things to be grateful for, if we just take the time to look. It’s the one, the only – Le Love List!

So I’m thinking about continuing on and getting my PhD. But you have to tell me – am I batshit crazy? The reason this is on my Love List is that it’s so good to remember that life is wide open, full of possibility. We have many fewer limits than we feel we do. But . . . I’m still totally unsure of how to proceed. Fellow MA/PhD people, I’d love to hear your thoughts! // Being outdoors as much as is humanly, physically possible. // Date night. // Wedding dress shopping with some of my oldest girlfriends, spending a morning drinking champagne and playing dress-up. So much love! ♥ // Jeremy was on a local podcast talking all about the current cocktail renaissance, the history and tradition of mixed drinks, and of course, our fledgling business Still. If you’re interested in cocktail culture, he has a lot of knowledge to share. Also he shouts me out a bunch of times and it makes me swoony. ♥ // Fires in the backyard fire pit, and a beautiful set of tree stumps to sit around the fire. // My CSA box is already overflowing with spring bounty! // Really amazing salads. // Blackberry margaritas. // Watching Waits bobbing for apples. // A watermelon birthday cake. // Feeling inspired again, so inspired.


Okay everyone, so now it’s your turn! I’d love to hear what you’re loving lately, and I’m sure everyone else would as well. Let’s share the love and send it out into the world! Just leave your Love List in the comments below, yes?

And cheers, to another wonderful weekend! Oh, and I’ll leave you with one last little thing – certain to make you smile:

♥ ♥ ♥

  • Katie

    I got my PhD last year in government/public policy. It took me 6 years, though I did not have a master’s degree to start. It was hard but rewarding and I loved being able to immerse myself in one issue I really cared about. If you want it, go for it!!

    I’m loving finally having gorgeous weather over here in NY!

  • Bel

    Hiya – I’ve also a recovering academic with a PhD. My advice from 15 years down the line is:
    a) the subject needs to be something you feel truly passionate about – it’s a marathon, not a sprint, and you need to keep the motivation going (that’s the hardest part), If it is something that you’re not 100% happy/comfortable with, it makes the experience unbearable.
    b) The department you work in needs to be supportive and a place that you really want to hang out. I see academia rather like a school playground for grown-ups – several people have never left the closeted educational system, and unfortunately act like it. It’s a dog-eat-dog environment (or carrot-eat-carrot for vegan purposes ;-)) and it was something I was unprepared for. If your supervisors are supportive and you get on with them, that makes life so much easier.
    c) Fully fully expect the final year/writing up to be nervous breakdown territory. It happens to everyone. Pare down your schedule, reduce any external commitments, and be prepared to lose a year of your life. You’ll have multiple moments when you want to quit – ignore that instinct, but be aware that you’ll lose all perspective in life. The PhD is the be-all-and-end-all of everything that you exist for at the time. It takes time to recover normality.
    d) Plan out the whole of the PhD i.e. work packages and interim deadlines – I did the stupid thing and thought “meh – I’ve got ages yet!” and regretted it. Make sure you keep on-top of new publications and techniques, and write summaries of them, then classify them into subject areas, as you go along. That’s your background section sorted!
    Really the hardest thing isn’t an intellectual one at all (I think I got dumber actually), but the ability to keep going and see the end goal. It is worth it, and you learn a hell of a lot about yourself as a person (As well as the subject area).
    If I was to do a PhD now, I would approach it far differently and with much more maturity – and you have that in spades already. Use your savviness, and you’ll be fine!

  • rivula

    Austin is awesome! We will welcome you with open arms. :)

    I’m finishing up my PhD in a humanities discipline at UT (Austin, if that wasn’t obvious). I’m not continuing in academia after I graduate.

    I don’t know what it’s like for someone in the sciences, but there is no way I could EVER ethically encourage someone to pursue a PhD in the humanities. We don’t get paid enough, it takes too long, the job prospects are terrible, etc. But the worst part is the mindset in academia — in my discipline, all the negative stereotypes about academic mind games and anxiety disorders are totally true. It’s truly terrible to see so many smart people break down because of their own self-doubt and because of their unsupportive (jealous?) colleagues. I eventually decided that I value my family (I was rebellious and got married and had a baby in grad school! bad me!) and personal interests (like gardening and sewing and travel that is not research) over an academic career, which is already such a a rare thing that it truly does not feel like I’m giving anything up by going alt- ac.

    Again, I cannot say whether that would be your experience, but I urge you to really consider the experience of more advanced grads in your department. I thought I was a special snowflake and things would be different. It is not and I am not.

  • Amy

    I would ask you “Why do you want to do a PhD?”. Looking forward to your response.

  • Brandy

    I stopped after my MA because the writing was on the wall for PhDs in the humanities. My professors were all incredibly frank with me that my job prospects were slim as the face of academia was changing (2003) for the worse. They were suffering and they didn’t want me to see the same fate. My husband stayed for his PhD, but in the sciences. He’s doing what he loves (basic research) but we are stuck on the east coast (I’m from California) because basic research gigs are hard to get funding for these days. I have a friend with a Yale PhD who teaches high school biology at a private high school and LOVES it. It just means that a PhD doesn’t equal a job in academia anymore but that may not be important to you. What do you want to do? I’d come up with some concrete career options and go from there.

  • Kristin

    Why yes – that lovely sound is a guaranteed smile! What a doll he is!

    My love list for the day is being thankful for a group event that went ridiculously smoothly until the 11th hour. And even then, things worked out as best as they could. This has never happened in my 11 years doing this job and for that I am infinitely grateful. I bid them farewell in the AM and then am off to Paris for a few days of beautiful wine and fantastic people watching.

    Voilà ma liste d’amour! <3

  • Sarah C.

    I know the sciences are different than the humanities (my area), but I think in general you really need the PhD in order to do all that you might want to do (in terms of research and teaching at a university). The MA will get you certain levels of industry jobs, and I know you could teach at a community college with an MA, but to teach/research at a university, or to advance in industry, my vote is for the PhD. Sure, it’s tough, and long, and harrowing, and all that–but then you have it and no matter what, they can’t take that away from you. (And that may not mean as much to you as it did to me, but that was the thought that kept me going at the rough, rocky points near the end of my PhD–no matter what job I do, or where I go in life, or whether or not I succeed in having an academic career, I have my doctorate and no one can take that away from me).

  • Sarah C.

    Not everyone has that experience in the academic humanities. I have a job at an R1, doing the research I love and teaching the classes I love, and I have hobbies, a life, a family, and friends. I work in a supportive department with colleagues who rock, and don’t play mind-games with each other (though I see that in other departments, not everyone needs to fall prey to that). Maybe I got lucky, but it’s not fair to say that no one ever gets to have the life and career they want in the humanities.

  • Deirdre

    So much love! Happy May day <3

  • rivula

    Yes, you got extremely lucky. The chances of most PhDs having similar luck are pretty slim, and I cannot encourage my students to enter a field where one’s entire future depends so very much on luck. But I don’t know much about how it is in the sciences, or what Sayward’s goals and needs are.

  • Sarah C.

    I think the sciences may well be different, but I don’t know enough to say. But in the humanities, I certainly don’t think just anyone should be going on to the PhD (and I discourage more students than I encourage to pursue the PhD), but at the same time I lament the great research we lose when bright analytical thinkers avoid our disciplines because of the job market problems (and I hope for a way to make the humanities PhD a degree worth having for a wide variety of jobs, not just university teaching ones).

  • Rachel in Veganland

    Sayward! Ok, I’m probably a little biased here because I’m after my PhD (currently working on my MA, just was asked by my department to interview for the PhD) but I really think a doctorate is essential for kick ass jobs in the academic world. And you seem to like school, so I think it’d be a good fit for you. I feel much the same–I really love the process of being a graduate student so I want to stay and work on PhD coursework more than anything, but I realize that it’s tough and not doable for everyone for so many reasons. I get the sense from you musings and photos that you also like the hunt for knowledge–the act of learning and everything that goes with it. If you’re ok doing another round of graduate work (mentally, physically, emotionally it’s all draining but simultaneously invigorating let’s be honest) and all that comes with a doctoral thesis etc. then I say DO IT! It definitely differs between fields, (art historian here, for sure! I know nothing about specific job markets etc in the sciences…) but I think as a whole if PhD is desirable and possible, then by all means get out your notebooks and go for it! Always happy to commiserate/talk academia.

    Anyway, enough rambling. LOVE LIST!

    hemp milk, my new jam // BOOKS! It’s summer and I’m back to reading! I just finished the 5th Game of Thrones book (I read books 2-5 over the course of the last semester!) and now I’m on to some new books that I found at a beautiful local bookshop recently. Thrilled to read again, especially read outside! // the hearts of palm ceviche that’s on my menu for this evening. // Finishing the semester, and taking a staycation to recuperate from it. // The new vegan messenger bag I’m buying to mark the end of this term, and to take with me for over the summer work and excursions. :)

  • Shannon

    I am working gone my Ph.D. in psychology. My best advice is to have a great relationship with your advisor and fellow students. I couldn’t have made it this far if I was in a super-competitive department!

    my love list – walking for my masters at the commencement ceremony and celebrating with friends after, getting back to bike commuting to school, new vegan nail polish in my beauty box, foraging for ramps (my first time ever foraging!), and neil gaiman short stories.

  • Sonja

    Hey Sayward (and the bonzai community), I love reading all the love lists and watching your videos (just watched your unboxing video from march – would like to see more of those). I’m thinking about getting my PhD as well so I have no advice and I guess the academic system in the US works quite differently from the system here in Germany… but you’ll find the right way for you.
    My love list:
    - long walks with my favorite person
    - vegan strawberry-cookie dough milk shakes
    - growing your own food
    - having a new hair cut
    - that I’m able to follow my dreams

    Have a great weekend everyone!

  • Sayward Rebhal

    Thanks Katie, and CONGRATS on getting your PhD. You must feel pretty amazing right now. =)

    And yay for warming weather in New York!

  • Sayward Rebhal

    Thank you so much for all the input Bel! Lots of food for thought here.

    a) The subject matter itself is not something I’m particularly excited about. I like biology/science well enough, and I have a LOT of experience with it. But hte truth is, learning/talking about science does not give me the same *charge* I get as, say, learning/talking about veganism, or nutrition, or social justice, or even politics.

    What does give me a charge is the teaching aspect. And writing. Both of which I would want to do with a Masters or a PhD. Getting a PhD would give me a LOT more clout and therefor offer a lot more options in both of the areas I want to pursue – teaching and writing books.

    So then, is it enough to be passionate about the end result, if you’re not passionate about the process of getting there? I don’t know, but from what I’ve heard from folks with PhDs, the answer might be “no”

    b) The department is bomb-diggity and I have a lot of connections there. That part is great.

    c) See, this part really worries me. I am prone to stress and anxiety and I don’t want to turn into a stress-mess because it seriously negatively impacts my parenting. It’s happened before and I don’t want to go back there. It’s not fair to Waits.

    d) This is fantastic advice, thank you!

    Thank you so much for all your insight, it really helps!

  • Sayward Rebhal

    Thank you, I haven’t been to Austin in over a decade and I’m so excited to return!

    I think there is some of what you describe in the sciences, but I also think it really depends on the University/department. I’ve always said that professors are like greek gods – great and powerful and veeeery full of hubris. The things that feed the ego are great. The things that hurt the ego do NOT go over well, haha.

    Anyway, I very much understand wanting to get out of all that madness, and I sooo understand prioritizing family and personal passion over a lofty career in academia. Very, very much understand . . .

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it really is so helpful!

  • Nicole

    Oh man, I have so much advice that it would fill a book (indeed, one that I’ve been meaning to write for years…). I did an MSc and a PhD. I’ve taught at the university level, mentored a whole bunch of grad students, and I’m now working in science communications for an amazing biotech with a gazillion other (brilliant) PhDs that got the fuck out of academia before they drowned. Note: I made this leap, walking away from a fantastic postdoc offer, and have never looked back. Best. Decision. Ever. So, be warned: academia is a beautiful, fascinating, and very very broken world.
    Let me see what I can get out (in braindump form – no particular order). You are in a good position because you’ve started as an MSc so you know what you’re getting into. Sort of. Keep in mind that a PhD is FAR more rigorous and far longer of a commitment. The expectations of you are much higher, and if you want to get anything (except anxiety, depression and a lot of dept… along with a couple of letters behind your name), you need to do a fucking STRONG PhD. I mean, several high impact publications, a few awards, some scholarships, many international conference presentations, some authored book chapters (real, invited ones, not the ones that you pay to do), perfect grades in the courses that you take, AND you must do all of this quickly, likely while TA-ing full time, preparing for your qualifying exam, and raising a son. So, none of this 7 year bullshit. 5 years, tops. Sounds harsh, but the competition is relentless and INTENSE. Frankly, you have to do it this way to even hope to get noticed and move on, or you will be buried in the huge bucket of mediocre PhDs, which, to be fair, is still a very awesome accomplishment, and not easy to do, but you will not make it career-wise with a mediocre PhD. At best, you will be trapped in the endless postdoc cycle until, still broke and too old to get another postdoc, you have to rethink your entire, overtrained, expensive career choice).
    Next advice: nurture your soft skills. Sure, your research project (as well as the scientific knowledge and the bench skills) will be the primary focus of your PhD. But, the soft skills like data management/analysis, writing and presenting complicated ideas, project management, mentoring/teaching, experimental design – THOSE are the skills that are going to get you a job. So, throughout your journey, do anything you can to enhance and highlight those things. I got my sci comm job by focusing on the fact that I could communicate my research well. I took some workshops and courses, won some awards for my work, wrote a few side publications and became known as the “person who could write” in my little academic world. And it worked.
    So, do you do a PhD? Well, I don’t doubt that you have the grit to get through. But, do it with realistic expectations. Being “Dr” and expecting some level of career in the end is absolutely not the goal. Learning, developing your skills, and contributing to science? Good goals.

  • Sarah

    I’m currently doing a PhD, and although it’s one of the most challenging things I’ve ever done, it feels incredible to be able to completely immerse yourself in something you love. I do wish I’d known more about how emotionally taxing and isolating it can be, so that I could have managed my expectations a little better, but I love getting to spend every day indulging my passion. If you’re in love with your field of study, as I am, I say go for it! :)

  • veronika

    I’m not sure I have much to add to the superb Ph.D.-related comments below – I think there’s truth to each and every one of them – that it’s all-consuming, taxing in every way, and unlike a M.S., much more open-ended (see “7-year bullshit”, below :)). I think that it was a very challenging part for me. I would work like a beast for months, and would then have many little burnouts. And because the scope of the project was so large, it was hard to always keep an end goal in mind. And research, you know, is such a fickle mistress. One of the main things you learn is how to continuously recover from failure and keep going.

    But it was manageable. Until I had a child in grad school, and then I almost broke :) No other student in my program had a baby, and in an area where being immensely dedicated is a must, spending sleepless nights in the lab is glorified, and showing up disheveled to department talks is your nerd cred, this was very challenging. You should really ask yourself what you are prepared to miss. And I am sure you are dealing with that already, but this would be missing stuff with a far-off, fuzzy endpoint, potentially.

    Now, say you have decided that it is, in fact, for you (go girl!).

    What do you want to have it for? Teaching? I am not 100% sure, but depending on the venue, you might need to do a proper academic postdoc for that. I thought this article was pretty cool (and realistic)

    So, depending on the postdoc you want, and how competitive you wish to be later on in acquiring a choice teaching position, you might need to be really flexible with where you’ll end up for a number of years. So, deciding on whether you want to stick around in school should include considerations of that you’ll do immediately after. And you should choose quickly – there’s a time limit for getting fellowships post-graduation, it’s harder to do academia after industry, etc.

    While having a Ph.D. opens many doors, gives you many options, and breaks many ceilings, it is also not the end. The postdoc matters a great deal if you want to be in academia, and I’ll tell ya – the 50+ hour weeks are expected, my male colleagues are not running out of the door at 5:10 to get their kids from daycare because they have wives to support them full-time, and the competition and performance anxiety sometimes feels like grad school 2.0.
    (maybe that’s why Nicole said she never looked back when she turned down that postdoc and the academic track! I completely get it)

    I don’t want to sound like a super-downer. I don’t regret having this degree. I like research, and although I have no aspirations of having my own lab (one of those things I need to justify all the time to people), I also know that my project isn’t just going to be given away, and I have greater ownership of my work that even a Master’s would afford me. And although I don’t formally teach right now, I do have mentoring requirements, which I greatly enjoy.

    So, not awesome bottom line, but just some things to chew on, perhaps. Good luck, looking forward to getting to hear what you decide!

    and now that I’m so inspired, my love list:
    - Being done with my Ph.D.!

    - Never going to school ever again. Ever.

  • Roxanne Beinart

    I have a PhD in ocean sciences – I’m currently a postdoc. I would seriously consider whether you can do the teaching you want to do without a PhD. And I would be surprised if you would really need a PhD to do impactful and important science writing. It’s a long, stressful haul if you aren’t fully committed to research. I’ve seen may people start PhDs and not finish them. And keep in mind that a PhD is not a golden ticket to teaching – most science PhDs I know are struggling to find permanent positions, teaching or otherwise. On the plus side, you can usually get paid to do a science PhD with (small) stipends and you don’t have to go into debt for the tuition! And we definitely need more kick-ass women in science. Good luck with your decision!

  • Sayward Rebhal

    To be honest, I really just want the PhD in order to increase my opportunities/chances/earning potential in the 2 things I already plan to do with my Masters – teach at the college level, and write books. Both are more available to PhDs than to MA-holders, but I don’t reckon that’s a good enough reason to spend the next 5 years of my life living on the brink of nervous breakdown.

    And that’s why I’m definitely leaning away from it . . .

  • LIndsey at TheGreenPenn

    I can’t offer much advice in the PhD discussion (since I, myself, never finished my bachelor’s), but I think if anyone can make it happen, it would be you, Supermom.
    If it’s something you really want, the universe will help you get it.
    This video of Waits, OMG! Is there anything better than a baby laugh? I just posted a short vid on Instagram last night of my little one’s “sneaky laugh”. Baby giggles make the top of my Le Love List. Also, there’s the FINALLY hot and sunny weather after months of chilly rain. We’ve spent as much time outside as possible and have a few green things popping up in the garden. I’m never as happy as I am on a warm, sunny day with my bare feet in the dirt while pulling weeds and watering my food. I’m also loving that Charlotte asks to have picnics every night, so we’ve been laying a blanket on the grass and enjoying the fresh air as often as we can manage in our busy lives. It’s pretty awesome to look at my kid and realize that, even though she’s the spitting image of my husband, her likes and interests are so aligned with my own. At two, she already appreciates being outdoors, looking for frogs and fishies at the creek, laying in hammock, planting things, hugging doggies, and doing yoga. My cup runneth over with happy stuff this week.

  • Angie

    I will be at Vegan Beer Fest, too! Hope to see you there.
    I do not have a PhD, so I am not sure how much help I will be, other than to encourage you to go for it, if you are feeling inspired! And, do it now before you take a break since you are already in the school mode.
    My love list this week: a patient, understanding husband, Bach rescue remedy, naps, dog hugs, Iyanla Vanzant, lentils, cruelty-free make-up and peppermint oil.

  • Bel

    Hi Sayward – I’m happy for you to email me if you like to discuss further (no pressure!). My PhD was in the Sciences too, which I do love, but it was the wrong branch for me. I think it’s key to find the real heart of why you are doing it – and don’t lose sight of that. I did, and completely lost my way with it, with bad consequences for me. The stress for me really came from the fact that I had forgotten why I did it – so this large looming unwanted thesis hanging over my head coupled with a terrible work situation just stressed out every element of my life. It isn’t easy, but I also know people who have a far easier ride (final year excepted!).
    I guess if your passion is teaching, then you need to explore options about what you can do without a PhD – if you can get where you want to go without one, great. If not, then the trick is to find the right PhD.
    Would you be looking to do it part-time or full-time?

  • Sayward Rebhal

    Ooh Angie definitely come say hi if you see me at Beer Fest!

  • Sayward Rebhal

    This is so beautiful and full of joy – thank you Lindsey!

  • Sayward Rebhal

    This is exactly what I’m afraid of – the stress destroying me and basically making me lose these precious years where I want to be fully present in Waits’s little life. I don’t want to be an angerball all the time, when he needs me to be supporting him and spending time with him and helping become a big human!

    Right now I’m looking into another option – a PhD in Science Education, which migh tbe a more relaxed path that would still get me to my same goals.

    Thanks for all the thoughts and input Bel!

  • Sayward Rebhal

    I want to teach but ideally at the Community College level. I can get hired as adjunct with an MA, but getting a faculty position would be super hard without a PhD (possible, but *almost* impossible). I don’t wan to do research and I’m not really interested in teaching at a 4-year institute. So who knows?? I go back and forth every day, haha.

    Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts though, Brandy! Hearing from everyone has really helped me so, so much.

  • Sayward Rebhal

    Paris! You lucky duck! Have the most amazing trip!

  • Sayward Rebhal

    No I get that – to go through that, and to achieve it – to EARN it – I get what you mean when you say “they can’t ever take that away”. It must be such a grounding, affirming feeling. It’s the ultimate accomplishment.

    And very enticing, indeed! ;-)

  • Sayward Rebhal

    Ditto Deirdre! To you too! (6 days late, whoopsie) ♥

  • Sayward Rebhal

    Thank you so much for all your thoughts Rachel! It’s so much appreciated, though at this point I sort of feel more confused than ever, haha (NOT your fault at all, of course)

    But yay for the Love List! I miss reading and the GOT books are definitely high on my list!

  • Sayward Rebhal

    Thanks Shannon, luckily that’s one thing I’ve really got going for me here! The profs I’m close with in the dept are wonderful, and all of them are urging me to stay and keep going, which is so nice.

    Thanks for the Love List! Yay for walking – that must have felt AMAZING!

  • Sayward Rebhal

    Thanks Sonja, and thanks for the lovely Love List! Also, strawberry cookie dough milkshakes sound A-MAZING. Wowza

  • Sayward Rebhal

    Wow, so much info and insight here Nicole! And so applicable to my situation and my potential path. Thank you thank you thank you!

  • Sayward Rebhal

    Thanks Sarah, but that’s defintitely one of the issues I’m up against. I love teaching biology, I love learning biology in a broad, fundamentals kind of way. But a science PhD means looking incredibly closely at one teeny tiny part of one specific system in one unique way, etc (I’m sure you know what I mean), and that, honestly, is like ZERO appealing for me. So the end result of the PhD – teaching and writing science = YES! But the process of getting it? I’m just not sure I have that “immerse in your passion” thing that you’re describing. And I’m not sure a person can stomach a PhD without that . . .

  • Sayward Rebhal

    Haha, thank you for this comment and I LOVE your Love List.

    I’m terrified of the 7-Year Bullshit!!! =D

  • Sayward Rebhal

    You’re so right Roxanne, and you hit on pretty much all the points Im struggling with. Oi. It’s hard to know what to do!!

  • Rachel

    Hey there! I commented on this from my phone a while back, but I suppose it didn’t go through. Everyone makes great points about PhD land, so I’ll try not to be repetitive. Yes, it’s emotionally taxing and you have to love your field of study. Agree agree agree. I think another exercise that could be useful in the decision process is making a list of careers you could see yourself really wanting at the end and asking if a PhD is *really* necessary to do those things. Halfway through my first PhD field season, making that list and being able to say “Yes, all these career choices are made better/easier by having a PhD” really helped me get back on my horse (said horse had like, thrown me off and sat on my head, so I needed the boost). Also, you are so obviously smart enough to get a PhD, so don’t let that factor into the choice. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should or that you have to in my opinion. Anyway, just my two cents.

    Good luck staring down the end of the spring quarter. Summer soon!